Comments on: What’s Right with WordPress 2.3

By: [Be el o ge] » Blog Archive » Categories vs. Tags

[Be el o ge] » Blog Archive » Categories vs. Tags — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:09:01 +0000

[...] Version 2.3 der Blogsoftware released. In diesem Zusammenhang sind diese beiden Posts interessant: What’s right with Wordpress 2.3 Tags! And [...]

By: pilgrim

pilgrim — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:06:59 +0000

Tag management should have its own admin page, under Manage > Tags. The “Advanced” Tag Entry plugin is better than nothing, but if you have a lot of tags in your blog (I have about 2,500) it takes forever to load the post edit page, causing my browser to ask me *twice* if I want it to continue running an “unresponsive” script, before the page eventually loads – so I’ve deactivated the plugin again.

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Wordpress 2.3 Release Scandal: The Aftermath at forgedeuphoria.com — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:51:07 +0000

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By: tabrez

tabrez — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:15:47 +0000

The Dashboard is still cluttered, Manage & Options menus must be re-organised differently, no searching of posts, no automatic plugin updating service yet, no importing from another wordpress blog _directly_ given the url, WP-Cache not integrated, backup tool works only for the database and not for the wordpress files.

The new Term and Taxonomy model is very good. Canonical URLs are my favourite, hope all the redirection rules are properly added to the .htaccess file automatically.

Why should there be a default blogroll? No way to remove the importers out of the admin interface for those who don’t need them.

By: Luca Beltrame

Luca Beltrame — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:49:43 +0000

What is wrong with Wordpress 2.3? Breaking the DB schema three weeks before release, therefore causing many plugins to break. It wasn’t a good decision, and should have been announced when 2.3 work started instead.

By: ineation

ineation — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:02:01 +0000

Here is what I understand : In fact this new taxonomy system gives new opportunities for plugin developpers. For example you will be able to have a different and separate taxonomy system for each “object” in you WP database : post, page, link, tag ; but also you could imagine : files, photos (album), users, google map… “Term” is the keyword that describe the object and taxonomy is the categorization system that handle the terms of that object. For example you could have the term “wordpress” used in the “Tag” taxonomy but not in you “category” taxonomy. And you could imagine to have the terms “Paintings”, “Photo”, “Drawings” in a new “Artwork” taxonomy.
From what I see it enables future major improvement but from the user point of view, today, there is no real improvement (compared to WP 2.2 + plugin) and further more I agree that the taxonomy admin UI is very poor.
BUT you can guess that it will be improved a lot by the WP community in the coming months. Indeed this the strength of WP development model.
I am curious to see what will be coming…

By: Jenny

Jenny — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:16:37 +0000

Well, I think the catagories trying to be added as tags is pretty annoying. A few of my friends had problems with that. But I have yet to install it. I keep having major problems.

By: Carthik

Carthik — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:17:06 +0000

yes, the table name change must hit a few plugins hard. Going from UTW to nothing should be easy as far as the tags are concerned, but the output formatting functions provided by UTW were nice, and will need to be replaced now with some other functions, I suppose.

By: Cody

Cody — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:01:16 +0000

Two main things: the database table name change, and the lack of a good admin UI for the tags.

The table name change broke a lot of plugins I was using, including UTW. I had to import my tags into WordPress, but now I have no way to manage them without getting a third-party plugin. It would have been nice to have a management section for the tags, or at least a dropdown box or cloud in the post writing page to make adding tags to a post easier.

Of course, I still have to edit my theme to make the WP tags even show up, but that’s just me being lazy.

By: Darran

Darran — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:34:08 +0000

Adam, you do not need to redo all over again.

There is an importer of UTW where you can import all your tags into the new WordPress DB. I imported all my Simple Tagging tags to WordPress and using it wonderfully with the help of advanced tag entry to manage my tags.

By: Adam

Adam — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:06:15 +0000

I’m still trying to figure out why I’d switch to WordPress’ tags – vs – Ultimate Tag Warrior – i’ve been tagging my posts with that for the past 9 months, and I don’t know why I’d want to go back and switch and do all of them over again!

By: Benedict Eastaugh

Benedict Eastaugh — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:31:16 +0000

As far as I understand it, the new terms and taxonomy tables are to allow plugin developers to add their own taxonomy systems, as well as working for categories, link categories and tags. The term_relationships table links objects (posts, links etc.) to terms (categories, tags etc.).