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		<title>By: Mitesh Rami</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-152510</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitesh Rami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MT, not that great, Iâ€™ve tried it and found it slow and have many restrictions. Now i have a great alternative for MT and its WordPress..

Iâ€™ve been using Wordpress for my various blog&#039;s and used its themes to great effect. WP have siply no alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MT, not that great, Iâ€™ve tried it and found it slow and have many restrictions. Now i have a great alternative for MT and its WordPress..</p>
<p>Iâ€™ve been using Wordpress for my various blog&#8217;s and used its themes to great effect. WP have siply no alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: cd</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-152044</link>
		<dc:creator>cd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had just &quot;donated&quot; a small (but hard-earned) amount of money to MT/6A for my personal use of their software on my blog when Mena&#039;s pricing email came out. I had donated to help, then felt immediately abandoned to commercial interest. Yes, my donation was a drop in the bucket considering the work they put into MT, but it was my drop.

I&#039;m over it long-since, but shortly after that I found the article on switching to WP (thank you), and I immediately downloaded it and converted my modest site to WP.

Yes, that email is water under the bridge, but so is my regard for MT. The shifting policies, the comparative PITA (rebuilding, anyone?) of using MT, are all things I don&#039;t have to deal with any more. The switch to OSS is just another cynical political shift, and there will be more to come. They are a Movable Type in more ways than one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had just &#8220;donated&#8221; a small (but hard-earned) amount of money to MT/6A for my personal use of their software on my blog when Mena&#8217;s pricing email came out. I had donated to help, then felt immediately abandoned to commercial interest. Yes, my donation was a drop in the bucket considering the work they put into MT, but it was my drop.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m over it long-since, but shortly after that I found the article on switching to WP (thank you), and I immediately downloaded it and converted my modest site to WP.</p>
<p>Yes, that email is water under the bridge, but so is my regard for MT. The shifting policies, the comparative PITA (rebuilding, anyone?) of using MT, are all things I don&#8217;t have to deal with any more. The switch to OSS is just another cynical political shift, and there will be more to come. They are a Movable Type in more ways than one.</p>
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		<title>By: Trauschâ€™s Little Home &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Six Apart trying to gain brownie points?</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-152000</link>
		<dc:creator>Trauschâ€™s Little Home &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Six Apart trying to gain brownie points?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] looks like 6A is attempting to gain brownie points: it appears they are opening the source code to Movable Type. Interesting, for sure, but I have to wonder why they are doing it. The announcement from 6A does [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] looks like 6A is attempting to gain brownie points: it appears they are opening the source code to Movable Type. Interesting, for sure, but I have to wonder why they are doing it. The announcement from 6A does [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151949</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s because my first experience was with MT, but recently I have been using WP and WP MU and I find it really difficult to wrap my brain around WP templates and themes. MT was way easier when I was first learning it and it seemed to work the way you would expect it to.

WP is still very rough around the edges using template tags and other functions.

But the only reason I ever started looking at WP was because after the MT pricing started I couldn&#039;t afford it for what my needs have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because my first experience was with MT, but recently I have been using WP and WP MU and I find it really difficult to wrap my brain around WP templates and themes. MT was way easier when I was first learning it and it seemed to work the way you would expect it to.</p>
<p>WP is still very rough around the edges using template tags and other functions.</p>
<p>But the only reason I ever started looking at WP was because after the MT pricing started I couldn&#8217;t afford it for what my needs have been.</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151935</link>
		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been using Wordpress for as long as I can remember on various blog projects as well as websites i&#039;ve build for other people and there really has not been a viable alternative to wordpress in my opinion. I don&#039;t really have much experience with MT but as far as I&#039;m concerned I&#039;ve no reason to think of using any other blogging platform. Wordpress has always been there for me and the developer community surrounding it has always been spectacular. 

In saying that I think it is great that MT is going open source, competition should always be welcomed as well as offering people alternatives and adds a bit of variety to things. MT going open is good news for Wordpress. WP will continue to push boundaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using Wordpress for as long as I can remember on various blog projects as well as websites i&#8217;ve build for other people and there really has not been a viable alternative to wordpress in my opinion. I don&#8217;t really have much experience with MT but as far as I&#8217;m concerned I&#8217;ve no reason to think of using any other blogging platform. Wordpress has always been there for me and the developer community surrounding it has always been spectacular. </p>
<p>In saying that I think it is great that MT is going open source, competition should always be welcomed as well as offering people alternatives and adds a bit of variety to things. MT going open is good news for Wordpress. WP will continue to push boundaries.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151923</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WP&#039;s community is where it is all at.  If you ever have any problems, have questions about pluggins the forums and the people are there to help out.  I just never saw that in MT.  I&#039;m glad I am on Word press - 3 years running now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WP&#8217;s community is where it is all at.  If you ever have any problems, have questions about pluggins the forums and the people are there to help out.  I just never saw that in MT.  I&#8217;m glad I am on Word press &#8211; 3 years running now.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151905</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first blog was MT (well actually there was a very short stint with blogger before that). I thought it worked well, but the license was too restrictive as my goals expanded. As I started looking towards openly licensed options I found that WP was not quite ready for what I wanted and I actually went to b2evolution.

Over the last few years my goals changed, my life changed, my blogging stopped and then started again (at the new blogger no less) and I came back to Wordpress to find that it had matured into the best blogging platform out there (open or closed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first blog was MT (well actually there was a very short stint with blogger before that). I thought it worked well, but the license was too restrictive as my goals expanded. As I started looking towards openly licensed options I found that WP was not quite ready for what I wanted and I actually went to b2evolution.</p>
<p>Over the last few years my goals changed, my life changed, my blogging stopped and then started again (at the new blogger no less) and I came back to Wordpress to find that it had matured into the best blogging platform out there (open or closed).</p>
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		<title>By: i.am.Ben</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151899</link>
		<dc:creator>i.am.Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 04:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indeed.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151898</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless the open sourcery means the performance issues that drove me away from MT years ago are addressed, why would anyone use it? 


My opinion at the time was that 6A didn&#039;t deserve the loyalty it was getting. Maybe they&#039;ll finally repay that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless the open sourcery means the performance issues that drove me away from MT years ago are addressed, why would anyone use it? </p>
<p>My opinion at the time was that 6A didn&#8217;t deserve the loyalty it was getting. Maybe they&#8217;ll finally repay that.</p>
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		<title>By: NixGuy.com &#187; Movable Type vs. Wordpress</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151896</link>
		<dc:creator>NixGuy.com &#187; Movable Type vs. Wordpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is of course three years too late.Â  As Amit (one of the Wordpress coders) said: I still clearly remember the day Mena announced the new pricing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is of course three years too late.Â  As Amit (one of the Wordpress coders) said: I still clearly remember the day Mena announced the new pricing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Bowers</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151894</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Bowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think 6A&#039;s mistake was that they lost focus.

They had to worry about Livejournal, Vox, Typepad outages, and who knows what else so the core MT blogging product stalled and eventually Word Press surpassed them in features and community development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 6A&#8217;s mistake was that they lost focus.</p>
<p>They had to worry about Livejournal, Vox, Typepad outages, and who knows what else so the core MT blogging product stalled and eventually Word Press surpassed them in features and community development.</p>
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		<title>By: Little or No Relevance &#124; Movable Type is now Open Source</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151881</link>
		<dc:creator>Little or No Relevance &#124; Movable Type is now Open Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] track to regain ground, yet with all that said Wordpress is already there, and has been there for quite awhile. Lets see what happens.. who know I may be the next one one on MT [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] track to regain ground, yet with all that said Wordpress is already there, and has been there for quite awhile. Lets see what happens.. who know I may be the next one one on MT [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151875</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 05:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need to call the open source project should-of could-of wish-we-would-of, or Move2WP for short which is what I did also after asking them to make the project open source after reviewing their guidelines 4 months after their project was started.

Well I guess at the end of the day their having a good time with all the money they made.

Sorry MT/6A I wish you luck, but using your beta OS product now is a bit like washing your feet with your socks on it just doesn&#039;t work for me, besides I&#039;ve got enough baggage to deal without bringing you back into my life. 

-Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to call the open source project should-of could-of wish-we-would-of, or Move2WP for short which is what I did also after asking them to make the project open source after reviewing their guidelines 4 months after their project was started.</p>
<p>Well I guess at the end of the day their having a good time with all the money they made.</p>
<p>Sorry MT/6A I wish you luck, but using your beta OS product now is a bit like washing your feet with your socks on it just doesn&#8217;t work for me, besides I&#8217;ve got enough baggage to deal without bringing you back into my life. </p>
<p>-Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: dennis</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151874</link>
		<dc:creator>dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I was an MT user dating back to 2001 that switched to Wordpress.  I&#039;m not sour on MT or 6A.

Why would anyone question a decision to move a product under GPL?  If there&#039;s an ulterior motive, it is that they want (or should want) community support to reemerge as a force.  They need it now that the template system and innards are so difficult to fiddle with.

One of the wheels that fell off 6A&#039;s wagon (in my personal opinion) is community infighting.  I don&#039;t think 6A are &quot;full of themselves&quot;, but I do think that can be said of some of the (Pronet) community.  Before anyone gets excited, the exact same can be said for many in WP land.

WP needs to respect and learn from what MT has gone through.  If 6A made a mistake, it was overestimating the ability/desire of their users to accept a monetized view of MT&#039;s future.  Let&#039;s face it -- WP wouldn&#039;t exist if MT didn&#039;t blaze the trail.

...And I can&#039;t believe that people are still bitter about Mena&#039;s price structure email from so long ago.  Time to let that one go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I was an MT user dating back to 2001 that switched to Wordpress.  I&#8217;m not sour on MT or 6A.</p>
<p>Why would anyone question a decision to move a product under GPL?  If there&#8217;s an ulterior motive, it is that they want (or should want) community support to reemerge as a force.  They need it now that the template system and innards are so difficult to fiddle with.</p>
<p>One of the wheels that fell off 6A&#8217;s wagon (in my personal opinion) is community infighting.  I don&#8217;t think 6A are &#8220;full of themselves&#8221;, but I do think that can be said of some of the (Pronet) community.  Before anyone gets excited, the exact same can be said for many in WP land.</p>
<p>WP needs to respect and learn from what MT has gone through.  If 6A made a mistake, it was overestimating the ability/desire of their users to accept a monetized view of MT&#8217;s future.  Let&#8217;s face it &#8212; WP wouldn&#8217;t exist if MT didn&#8217;t blaze the trail.</p>
<p>&#8230;And I can&#8217;t believe that people are still bitter about Mena&#8217;s price structure email from so long ago.  Time to let that one go.</p>
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		<title>By: Goddess Carlie</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151871</link>
		<dc:creator>Goddess Carlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MT was really good when I started out blogging, however when the pricing structure came along and the licensing, I was one of the ones who moved to Wordpress. And so I&#039;m glad MT did do that as I found Wordpress so much easier to use, customise etc. I&#039;m curious to see how MT might have changed over the years, but I am also very happy with WP. Yay for WP! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MT was really good when I started out blogging, however when the pricing structure came along and the licensing, I was one of the ones who moved to Wordpress. And so I&#8217;m glad MT did do that as I found Wordpress so much easier to use, customise etc. I&#8217;m curious to see how MT might have changed over the years, but I am also very happy with WP. Yay for WP! <img src='http://wordlog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151869</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes,
it is too late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,<br />
it is too late!</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; Movable Type 4&#160;by&#160;Blogging Pro</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151866</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Movable Type 4&#160;by&#160;Blogging Pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/#comment-151866</guid>
		<description>[...] Carthik&#8217;s Wordlog where the title is MovableType: 3 Years Too Late?: I still clearly remember the day Mena announced the new pricing structure for MovableType. A day [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carthik&#8217;s Wordlog where the title is MovableType: 3 Years Too Late?: I still clearly remember the day Mena announced the new pricing structure for MovableType. A day [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Farries</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151860</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Farries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anil,

Jeezz, Carthik writes up a big long detailed post stuffed full of questions he (and many of us) would love to hear answers to (new pricing structure, etc), and all you can do is question Mary about her comments about MT staff being &quot;too full of themselves&quot;?

Do you not see the irony here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anil,</p>
<p>Jeezz, Carthik writes up a big long detailed post stuffed full of questions he (and many of us) would love to hear answers to (new pricing structure, etc), and all you can do is question Mary about her comments about MT staff being &#8220;too full of themselves&#8221;?</p>
<p>Do you not see the irony here?</p>
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		<title>By: jayne d'Arcy</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151848</link>
		<dc:creator>jayne d'Arcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 09:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost purchased MT, as it was the first blogging software I really dug into using.  It was your article about switching to Wordpress that made me get rid of MT and turn to WP.  As much as I loved MT back then, this latest development, for me, is too little, too late.  I love WP and it&#039;s going to take a lot for me to abandon it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost purchased MT, as it was the first blogging software I really dug into using.  It was your article about switching to Wordpress that made me get rid of MT and turn to WP.  As much as I loved MT back then, this latest development, for me, is too little, too late.  I love WP and it&#8217;s going to take a lot for me to abandon it.</p>
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		<title>By: Movable Type 4 : SixApart no se resigna &#124; Denken Ãœber</title>
		<link>http://wordlog.com/archives/2007/06/06/movabletype-3-years-too-late/comment-page-1/#comment-151846</link>
		<dc:creator>Movable Type 4 : SixApart no se resigna &#124; Denken Ãœber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 04:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tal vez lo mÃ¡s interesante es que SixApart decidiÃ³ lanzar una versiÃ³n Open Source del CMS Â¿que llegan 3 aÃ±os tarde? Seguro, pero al menos no se resignan y no me parece mal que intenten volver al mercado [...]</description>
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